Discussion in 'Current Events' started by BIV, Apr 3, 2012.
...Actually no, she wont be.
NINE FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!
Wouldn't blame him if he did when he saw her now.
I have had arguments on this topic with my sister where we were both in each other's face screaming at the top of our lungs. I just can't get her to see the other side of this. She would probably agree with this decision. I'm just tired of throwing real people under the bus for the benefit of hypothetical victims. Could it discourage women from complaining? Sure, I guess. But you have actual people on the one hand (like this guy), and hypothetical people on the other (victims who may or may not report it). Sorry, but actual people win out every time in my book.
Hopefully he can go after her in a civil trial and destroy her.
I fail to see how the hell prosecuting this twat would discourage actual victims from reporting it?
Again, I don't agree with this argument, but how it was argued to me was that a hysterical raipe victim won't understand the finer points of such a decision. All she will see is that an accuser was exposed and prosecuted, thus making her afraid to come forth herself. Personally I think that's bullshit and also somewhat chauvinistic (society protecting the poor woman who can't think rationally).
Like I said, I think that serving justice trumps that kind of "what if" scenario. It's almost like reverse pre-crime. They are predicting how some theoretical woman would react to this story and basing a legal decision on it. It's despicable.
Absolutely agree... it will just discourage people from lying about being victimized, which should carry a harsh punishment because it cheapens what real victims went through, has the potential to put innocent people behind bars, and makes people doubt stories like this.
The message this sends to women is "sure, go ahead, yell r@ape... even if you're lying, nothing will happen to you". So now psycho teens who are pissed that their daddy didn't buy them the Mustang they wanted, ex-wives fighting for child custody, or just women in general see this as a legitimate way to attack men who have spited them.
When in doubt, our society should be more concerned with keeping innocent people out of jail over letting guilty people go free.
Yeah, now my blood is boiling too! I was actually (falsely) accused of sexual harassment by a girl I dated in college (basically, she said that I pay her credit card bill, or she'll make my life hell) & since I had evidence that she was full of it, I let the case drag on for a bit to see how coddled she would be & to see who all presumed I was guilty.
The fu*king investigation chick called me "disgusting and boarish", and quite a few females gave me the "how could you " look.
Then, I simply printed off the email dummy sent me with the blackmail threat, & I had receipts that proved another girl and I were actually out of town when the supposed harassment took place.
In the end, they cleared me, of course, but they refused to punish false claim filer for the same reason as this case - to not scare other whores.
/sorry for the rant
It is infuriating. But what I want to know with these false claims how convictions are occurring. There can't be any real evidence other that what she said vs what he said. How does that result in a conviction.
And I'll tell you this, If I'm ever a juror on a r**e case, unless the prosecution can make a tighter than airtight case presenting witnesses and forensics and wounds matching the hands/feet of the defendant, You won't get a guilty vote from me. See, that's how the no punishment for false claims makes me react.
Did the mother coach the kid on this, and if so, why isn't her ass in a sling?
To prosecute her - Discourage woman/girls to report a ****.
Not to prosecute her - Encourage woman/girls to lie and put men in jail without any fear of being prosecuted for lying.
Wouldn't he be the one liable for his 11 yo's actions? Unless the mother had something to do with this: he could definitely sue her.
And he can definitely sue the gubmint, right?
"whaa" Are you talking about the whole background story? I haven't read it yet.
This would just show bitches they can get away with falsely accusing people or r8pe.
They were already doing it before this happened. But it does take away even more the threat of having their lies come back to haunt them.
Lots of women seem to very confused about what is, and what is not :rap:.
More education is the key... :icon_wink
Background story? What's that? I usually base my posts on a quick glance at the OP. Maybe, if I'm not in a hurry, I'll scroll through the first page of the thread.
I'm just saying that an 11 yo's actions are not her fault, the adults involved are the ones who should be held responsible.
Oh, OK. I dunno, man. This is one of those really rough situations. If your 11 year old kid told you some guy molested her, you would probably act as though it was the truth. I'm just sick and tired of the victim being essentially disregarded in cases like this. The judge's rationale wasn't that she was 11. It was the old "we don't want to discourage women from complaining" argument, and that's a bullshit argument IMO.
Yes but false accusal happen every day. My friend lost 3 years of his life and a career in the Army and his parents house defending him self. All because some girl got caught by her boyfriend getting a deep dicking by two guys.
After reading the article, I can safely say the only justice that would be served is her being anally assaulted by a large group of men, and being called a "liar liar pants on fire" by the police she reported it to. She was fucked in the head at a very young age.
The same thing happened to my brother's friend after he screwed some skank at a party, then treated her like shit after. She got mad and went to the cops days later reporting he sexually assaulted her. His family spent $50K in attorney fees proving that she was an unstable liar.
My belief on women.... I only trust one, my mom. Because no matter who she is, or who she is in relation to you, she is still a female. My best friend is engaged to my cousin. We all grew up together and are all very very close. I keep telling him, even though she is my cousin, she is still a woman. She is no different than any other female, or any other woman, because they can and will all act like cunts.
He doesn't want to listen though. And that just proves why I'll probably be single forever.
Once she turned 18 and STILL didn't say anything, it then became her fault. She's 23. Even from her point of view that's 5 years of false imprisonment.
Personally, I'd drop that to 16.
Little cunt should be in jail.