Would afternoon's make a difference?

mattiew23m

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I don't want to see the boys take a step back, and I know the question has been raised before, I have even asked it before. But, as things move along, I thought I would bring it up. Do you think afternoons would help or hurt the show? Do you think ratings would be increased? Would they get away with a little more? I would love to hear maybe one week of afternoon drive, just to see. What does everyone think?
 

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let the speculation begin.......:icon_roll
 
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I don't want to see the boys take a step back, and I know the question has been raised before, I have even asked it before. But, as things move along, I thought I would bring it up. Do you think afternoons would help or hurt the show? Do you think ratings would be increased? Would they get away with a little more? I would love to hear maybe one week of afternoon drive, just to see. What does everyone think?
Cleveland is one of the cities where they are on in the afternoon "3-6". As far as I know, they do pretty good.
Before the SFS they did great in drive time. They were number 1 in Cleveland right from the beginning. But since they came back, most of the listeners either moved out of Cleveland, or were killed from some sort of urban gang violence. :haha7:
 

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Yes, the show would rock in pm drive. Don't hold your breath though. The boys look at am drive as the primo spot.
 

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I remember the WNEW days, and afternoon drive was pretty cool, but for a number of reasons, I don't think it would be "better" than the am drive. First, while the old WNEW shows, according to some, were "crazier," I think this is due to the fact that a) they (and their guests) drank more before or during shows, something that is not an option anymore after the "show that cannot be named" (thanks again Ralphie May for saving their butts!!!), and (b) the FCC and other self-appointed "activists" are far more aggressive with respect to stopping potty-mouth/racial humor.

Six years ago, different enviornment, perhaps afternoons offer something great, but in today's climate, morning drive is best. Plus, it gives more opportunity for replays for those that can't catch it the first time.
 

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To answer the topic of this thread, I could see them doing better in afternoons from an ENERGY point of view.

The boys often sound tired (again this is my opinion) but often actually tell us they had a long night before. Does this hurt the show? Maybe/maybe not, but itd not be a factor if they were in afternoons.

Lets look at commercials: Commercial loads are traditionally largest on AM DRIVE TIME shows. O and A's morning slot is not exempt from this. This makes for prefabricated 15-20 minute chunks of conversation, often getting truncated prematurely. Afternoons don't have quite as many commercial spots. I'd be curious as to what the actual # of commercials per hour are in their AM show, versus their circa2002 WNEW commercial's per hour. If there are actually about the same amount, then for whatever reason, O/A seemed to work with the commercial breaks much better, and not let the flow of the show get interrupted as easily. How often these days is it that they don't even get to things they've teased, since they run out of time??


Finally, lets look at CBS/FCC restrictions. Sometimes it pays to NOT BE in the spotlight 100%. AM Drive is the most coveted position to be in radio, so I don't blame the boys from wanting to be there, however this places them in the limelight. So they shouldn't be surprised when oh hey, people are paying attention to them (for better or worse). Their ratings in afternoons were from what I remember, BETTER than what they are now. Maybe their hardcore base is more awake in the afternoon... I don't know.


Thanks for your time.
 

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I love the show in the mornings, but it is a different show than their afternoon drive show was.

I think that it was a higher energy show in afternoons and was more condusive to getting both guests and contests. It's easier to get people to leave work early and show up for the 55 gallon drum challenge etc. etc. Which I think people do easier than getting up at 4 am to do it for a morning show.

I also think it was better for their guests. Not necessarily celebrity guests, but O&A has always been a heavily comedian influenced show. Most comics are waking up around when the afternoon show starts, and I think the energy is lower in the morning slot.


All that said.... The boys want to do mornings... I think they are the best show in that timeslot, and am more than happy to listen to them in the mornings.
 

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They were admittedly drunk and/or stoned in the afternoons which "helped" give the show a different energy. Unless they're going to be drinking and doing whatever drugs they were doing back in the day, the show you hear now in the morning is probably the show you'd hear in the afternoon....it means they can go out after work, stay out later but still get the same amount of sleep as they're getting now. In other words, if they're tired in the morning, they'll be tired in the afternoon because all they've done is changed their social schedules a bit to adjust for the change in show time.

People - stop living in the past. I've been listening since the 'NEW days but, Opie and Anthony are on morning drive now. Forget about the speculation and the what-ifs. Morning drive is where they want to be and they do a damn good job at keeping us entertained.

Instead of living in the past, think of ways to help them bring the energy level of the morning show to the level you believe the afternoon show had and pass those ideas along.
 

mattiew23m

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They were admittedly drunk and/or stoned in the afternoons which "helped" give the show a different energy. Unless they're going to be drinking and doing whatever drugs they were doing back in the day, the show you hear now in the morning is probably the show you'd hear in the afternoon....it means they can go out after work, stay out later but still get the same amount of sleep as they're getting now. In other words, if they're tired in the morning, they'll be tired in the afternoon because all they've done is changed their social schedules a bit to adjust for the change in show time.

People - stop living in the past. I've been listening since the 'NEW days but, Opie and Anthony are on morning drive now. Forget about the speculation and the what-ifs. Morning drive is where they want to be and they do a damn good job at keeping us entertained.

Instead of living in the past, think of ways to help them bring the energy level of the morning show to the level you believe the afternoon show had and pass those ideas along.
No, I totally agree with you. I was just thinking numbers. Would they produce better numbers in afternoon's. I don't really give a fuck about ratings, but was
wondering if that would change anything. And was just wondering about content, if they made the switch. Speaking about the fm show only. But, now that I see WCKG is about to be gone, I am thinking, the fm show may fade away. I don't want that to happen at all, but markets are being lost really quickly
 
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I think afternoons would be cool, they would be able to drink again, and they would have a bigger audience because now the people who couldnt listen at work, can continue the show once they got home in the afternoon.
 
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I think afternoons are a better time slot for the 'demo'. Posted that a million times.

If it happened. I'd be happy. If not, I'm still happy.
 

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They were admittedly drunk and/or stoned in the afternoons which "helped" give the show a different energy. Unless they're going to be drinking and doing whatever drugs they were doing back in the day, the show you hear now in the morning is probably the show you'd hear in the afternoon....it means they can go out after work, stay out later but still get the same amount of sleep as they're getting now. In other words, if they're tired in the morning, they'll be tired in the afternoon because all they've done is changed their social schedules a bit to adjust for the change in show time.
I have to disagree with a few things here. We all know the beer was flowing back then, but the stoners were mainly Stinky, Garrett, Psycho Mark, maybe Ben etc... I don't think O&A did anything but drink.

They would never be as tired in the afternoon as they would be in the morning. Getting up at 4am, no matter how much sleep you get, is still tough for most people. If they went out after the show, and stayed up until the bars closed, they could still get a good 8hrs sleep. Now bedtime is somewhere between 9pm-11pm, and even later sometimes. Definatly getting less sleep now, it's just natural.

That being said, afternoons would rock, but this is the primo spot in am drive.
 

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I do not believe that afternoons would help the FM show ratings. Yes, I listened to the show when it was on in the afternoon and loved every minute of it. But bits they did then like wiffle ball bat, money-snatch and 55 gallon drum challenge, would not be able to be done now in mornings or afternoons. How many times has Opie expressed frustration at having to clear everything with executives and lawyers. The atmosphere is simply too constrictive now, and an afternoon time slot would not change this.
 

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I think afternoons are a better time slot for the 'demo'. Posted that a million times.

If it happened. I'd be happy. If not, I'm still happy.
it's definitely a better timeslot for the Demo and from a guest perspective... contests would also be better.

i always thought that the 'NEW show had better and funnier callers back in the day in the afternoon, instead of the dearth of truckers that predominantly call now. Not that there arent GREAT callers in the morning show, but i seem to remember them being funnier in the afternoons.

as for them not getting to things they tease... they used to tease stuff for fucking DAYS back in the day, they seem to be 100000x better at getting to topics they say they will talk about these days
 

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Yea I think afternoons would make a difference. Whether it would be good or bad who knows, radio seems to have changed since their old days.
 

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All of you people who think that the afternoon drive slot would bring back the wnew vibe are nuts. So much has changed since then with the FCC and the compaines involved weather it be XM or CBS, I cant see either one of the companies letting them do their old show. The lawyers would put the breaks on any of the fun they used to have, hell they cant even do the wiffel bat challange ot xm anymore, what makes you think that the time of day will matter in the overall show content.

Just be happy that the bbbbbboys are on what ever channel you listen to and enjoy the show
 

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No, I totally agree with you. I was just thinking numbers. Would they produce better numbers in afternoon's. I don't really give a fuck about ratings, but was
wondering if that would change anything. And was just wondering about content, if they made the switch. Speaking about the fm show only. But, now that I see WCKG is about to be gone, I am thinking, the fm show may fade away. I don't want that to happen at all, but markets are being lost really quickly
Sorry for jumping all over you Mattie - these 'what if' threads pop up so often, it's really frustrating. Ratings-wise, they might do better, but then again, and this is just my opinion, they'd do well in morning drive if they were promoted better. I'm in New York. I know they're on KROCK because I listened to them on KROCK during the XM suspension....but where's the advertising letting others know they're on KROCK or any other FM station for that matter? Where's the advertising promoting the XM show?

Get them the proper promotion and watch their ratings soar.
 

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I have to disagree with a few things here. We all know the beer was flowing back then, but the stoners were mainly Stinky, Garrett, Psycho Mark, maybe Ben etc... I don't think O&A did anything but drink.

They would never be as tired in the afternoon as they would be in the morning. Getting up at 4am, no matter how much sleep you get, is still tough for most people. If they went out after the show, and stayed up until the bars closed, they could still get a good 8hrs sleep. Now bedtime is somewhere between 9pm-11pm, and even later sometimes. Definatly getting less sleep now, it's just natural.

That being said, afternoons would rock, but this is the primo spot in am drive.
I thought they recently said that they were stoned doing some of the afternoon shows, which is why I said that, Tax. And you might be right about the sleep issue, but I was thinking that, in the same way someone adjusts his sleep schedule when they move from a day shift to a night shift so too would they adjust to an afternoon shift.

Regardless, I still think these threads are repetitive and serve no real purpose. I usually avoid them but I'm bored and I'm bitchy, so I figured this would be a way to amuse myself and get out some of the bitchiness :action-sm
 

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O&A would have the best ratings if they did their show from midnight to 3am. Every drunk near a radio would be listening. In terms of listeners, which is what they care about, morning radio is the place to be. I really don't think afternoon ratings would be that much better really. The same rules apply as the morning shift and I don't think the audience is any different. I think the same fans of goofball comedy and hacky bits are the people that listen to radio in the afternoons and the morning. People who like creativity and wit have long since moved on from the wasteland that is FM radio.