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Neckbeard

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Why is is that people paying into the system are always bullied and browbeaten into paying a "fair share" but nobody ever asks the parasites to suck a fair amount of blood? Welfare spending at a federal level alone has increased over 200 billion a year during the Obama presidency, an additional 40+ billion a year is being spent just on SNAP/EBT/Food Stamps whatever you wish to call it.

Why aren't the bums ever asked to receive a "fair take?" Why are tax increases ALWAYS the subject but never goodies cuts?

I'd sooner see a cut in gibsmuhdats than tax increases. Some of these proposed tax increases, like an increase on capital gains taxes, decrease investment and in reality lose revenue.

I want the fuckin' bums to take a fair amount, the fair amount being 0 percent.
700+ billion a year on their monkey asses is 700+ billion too much.
Nobody buys my groceries or fronts me money for my rent checks, motherfucker!
 

Yesterdays Hero

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#3
Why is is that people paying into the system are always bullied and browbeaten into paying a "fair share" but nobody ever asks the parasites to suck a fair amount of blood? Welfare spending at a federal level alone has increased over 200 billion a year during the Obama presidency, an additional 40+ billion a year is being spent just on SNAP/EBT/Food Stamps whatever you wish to call it.

Why aren't the bums ever asked to receive a "fair take?" Why are tax increases ALWAYS the subject but never goodies cuts?

I'd sooner see a cut in gibsmuhdats than tax increases. Some of these proposed tax increases, like an increase on capital gains taxes, decrease investment and in reality lose revenue.

I want the fuckin' bums to take a fair amount, the fair amount being 0 percent.
700+ billion a year on their monkey asses is 700+ billion too much.
Nobody buys my groceries or fronts me money for my rent checks, motherfucker!
 

f kane

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Tax increases are distasteful for sure but tax increases or tax cuts will not bring the jobs back to this country. Talks of where taxes should be are just a sideshow. When we get the factories and the call centers back then we will have a meaningful improvement. Until then we will just have varying degrees of a bad economy.
 

OilyJillFart

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Why aren't the bums ever asked to receive a "fair take?" Why are tax increases ALWAYS the subject but never goodies cuts?
Because the takers outnumber the givers. Simple. They vote in the party that gives them free shit.
 

THE FEZ MAN

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just a simple question, im not making a political statement just a little reminder of the past, that people just seem to forget completely and or just fucking ignore.


remember that check you got back in 2001-2 from G.W. ? i hope you invested it wisely.

there is your "fiscal cliff" so stop bitching about it.
 

tattered

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Im on of the 2 million people whose unemployment benefits are going to get cut off in 1 day. While i am not for handouts (i dont call something you pay into as insurance if you lose your job a handout you pay for it after all) i really think letting this expire or even reducing it from what it is at is not even a remotely good thing for the economy right now. I am back in school trying to learn a skill that would make me more employable but i cant even find a measely dish washing gig right now. Even if i did find one im filing for bankruptcy immediately because it wont pay my bills. unemployment is keeping me afloat while i finish school. i am really disappointed in both sides of the isle that they let this issue get to the point that it put all 2 million of us in panic mode.
 

KRSOne

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I thought New Yorkers love big government and big taxes. They should be happy if their taxes go up.
 

Neckbeard

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Not taxes on them, taxes on "rich people" and their definition of "rich" is "anybody who isn't me."
 

Don the Radio Guy

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Tax increases are distasteful for sure but tax increases or tax cuts will not bring the jobs back to this country. Talks of where taxes should be are just a sideshow. When we get the factories and the call centers back then we will have a meaningful improvement. Until then we will just have varying degrees of a bad economy.
One of the reasons they left was high taxes.
 

NuttyJim

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At this point Im starting to blame the dumb fucks that continue to vote these cocksuckers in. Fucking Crooks.

Congress's motto should be "I got mine, Fuck everyone else."
 

domelogic

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I guess it could be worse, I read an article that said people in France that make over 1.3 mil get taxed at a rate of 75% for everything beyond that amount. The current president was trying to reduce that amount but was shut down. Maybe some here want to model France's plan.
 

f kane

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One of the reasons they left was high taxes.
A minor reason yes, but tax cuts cannot get them back here, even though tax cuts are generally a good thing. It's not conservative or liberal to think that the jobs left because they can pay people next to nothing to build stuff in China; that's just a fact.
 

f kane

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People really believe in this whole fiscal cliff bullshit?
I am tired of the fucking scare tactics. First it was impeachment and y2k that was going to end the world, then September 11th and global terrorism(which should be taken seriously). Now it was December 21 2012, fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling. People in this country are so easily frightened and manipulated. It's sickening. Let's go over the fiscal cliff already and realize that it's just another day.
 

maz

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What would be the problem with extending the tax cuts we have now for another 6 months or so ?
I know shit about economics
But also , is there any dollar estimate on the difference between keeping what we have now , and taxing the 1 or 2 percenters more ?
I'm thinking the number isn't that big of a deal in the big picture
But I'm probably naive
 

maz

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Where'd all the CE experts go ?
I want answers to my simpleton questions
Seriously
I'm not being a dick
I hate politics and politicians
 

Cunt Smasher

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What would be the problem with extending the tax cuts we have now for another 6 months or so ?
I know shit about economics
But also , is there any dollar estimate on the difference between keeping what we have now , and taxing the 1 or 2 percenters more ?
I'm thinking the number isn't that big of a deal in the big picture
But I'm probably naive
They always want more, and they could tax the 1% at 100% and it wouldn't matter. We don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem. Nobody I'm aware of is proposing any meaningful spending cuts. We're spending money like a drunken sailor and every penny of it is borrowed. We're doomed.
 

maz

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They always want more, and they could tax the 1% at 100% and it wouldn't matter. We don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem. Nobody I'm aware of is proposing any meaningful spending cuts. We're spending money like a drunken sailor and every penny of it is borrowed. We're doomed.

I don't know you , but you may have a point

Seems simple to me to extend what we have in place and try to work on it more
Which will probably still not get worked out
But , what's the rush ?
We Really need to be scaring people and blaming the other party ?
 

MayrMeninoCrash

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I don't know you , but you may have a point

Seems simple to me to extend what we have in place and try to work on it more
Which will probably still not get worked out
But , what's the rush ?
We Really need to be scaring people and blaming the other party ?
The problem is that Republicans cannot give an inch, because then Obama and the Democrats will get 100% of the credit. On the other hand, if the Republicans stonewall and bad things happen economically, the Republicans will be on the hook for 100% of the problems. Bottom line is that there's a shit sandwich and everyone is waiting for Republicans to take the first bite.
 

Cunt Smasher

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The problem is that Republicans cannot give an inch, because then Obama and the Democrats will get 100% of the credit. On the other hand, if the Republicans stonewall and bad things happen economically, the Republicans will be on the hook for 100% of the problems. Bottom line is that there's a shit sandwich and everyone is waiting for Republicans to take the first bite.
The dems have said fuck you on spending cuts, the repubs don't want to raise taxes, they're all jockeying for political points even if it means bankrupting the country. It is a shit sandwich, but no oart of it is a surprise, this has been coming for awhile. The whole thing makes me sick.
When I voted, I voted for Romney, just to vote against Obama, every other vote I cast was against the incumbent, we need to clean house. The only way I see to break the cycle is term limits. Politics was never supposed to be a career, and the entire system from local dog catcher to the POTUS is corrupt, self serving, and nothing like what the founding fathers intended.
 

JonBenetRamsey

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The problem is that Republicans cannot give an inch, because then Obama and the Democrats will get 100% of the credit. On the other hand, if the Republicans stonewall and bad things happen economically, the Republicans will be on the hook for 100% of the problems. Bottom line is that there's a shit sandwich and everyone is waiting for Republicans to take the first bite.
it would be great if politicians actually did their jobs instead of posturing for the next election. but, that would only happen in a perfect world.